arbara
DeMarco-Barrett was born in Altoona, Pennsylvania, and at
11 moved to Lansdale, just outside Philadelphia. She attended
Goddard College in Plainfield, Vermont, where she earned a
bachelor's degree. She has published fiction, poetry, articles
and essays in such journals as the Los
Angeles Times, The Writer, Poets & Writers, Sunset, Westways, Orange
Coast Magazine and the San Jose Mercury News . Her
work has been anthologized in two books: The ASJA Guide to
Freelance Writing (St. Martin's Press, 2003) and Conversations
with Clarence Major (University Press of Mississippi, 2002).
She is host of Writers
on Writing, a weekly radio show that airs on KUCI-FM
(88.9) and at www.kuci.org
and teaches creative
writing at
the University of California, Irvine Extension and through Gotham Writers Workshop in NYC.
She lives in Corona del Mar, California, with her jazz and
blues musician husband, her 13-year-old son, two tanks of fish
and two cats. Her first book is Pen On Fire: A Busy Woman's
Guide for Igniting the Writer Within (Harcourt/Harvest,
October 2004), which was honored in New York City in April with the 2005 ASJA Outstanding Book Award, Self-help/Service.
Q&A with Barbara DeMarco-Barrett
Q: What was it that made you want to become a writer?
A: I can remember growing up with an overwhelming
need to express myself with words, but I didn't have the vocabulary.
In our household, my native Sicilian dad (he came from Italy
when he was a teen) spoke a mishmash of English and Italian
that my friends could hardly understand—a source of great
embarrassment to me as a teenager. My mother was forced to
quit school in the seventh grade, so her English also didn't
win any prizes. There wasn't what you'd call conversation in
my house—or books, except for maybe Reader's Digest Condensed
Books . My
parents spoke Italian quite a bit. It was their secret language,
although they didn't teach me—I think they wanted me to grow
up to be a nice, white Anglo-Saxon American; the description, "Italian-American," did
not yet exist in our lexicon. So my desire to write may have
stemmed from this primal need to express myself in words.
Q: Were there any teachers along the way that provided encouragement?
A: Thank God for teachers. A few of them planted seeds that,
to this day, I still offer up prayers for their good intentions.
At North Penn High, in Lansdale, Mrs. Sanderson, Mr. Hefner
and Mr. Ribble were teachers who made me feel I had something
to offer. Prior to the 11 th grade, I almost quit school; I
definitely circled the drain. My parents had split up and things
were bad. These teachers were a Godsend. If only they knew how
much of an effect they had on me. That's one of the main reasons
I continue to teach adults and children: I know the world-changing
effect a teacher can have on a life.
And in college I had many mentors, but early on, two in particular—Jeff
Weiss and Judith Beth Cohen. They believed in me more than I believed
in me. Later, with John Dranow (former husband of poet Louise
Gluck) and novelist Kathryn Davis, I came to believe that I
was indeed a writer.
Q: What was the inspiration for Pen on Fire ?
A: When my son was a toddler, I taught
a private writing workshop in the studio behind our house.
For many beginning writers, it's common to feel inspired while
in workshop, but once you return home, the inspiration dwindles
and you're left scratching around for whatever motivation
you can find. One day, at the end of class, after a particularly
good couple of hours, one student, Robin Barada, said, "Can we just take you home with
us? It's always so inspiring here." I didn't think my husband
and son would like me going to live somewhere else, nor did
I want do. Instead, I said, "I will write a book for you."
Q: Why did it take you so long to publish your first book?
A: Let me just say this: Pen on Fire may
be the first book I published, but it wasn't the first book
I wrote. I wrote two novels prior to Pen on Fire —two unpublished novels.
I also wrote 100 pages of a mystery, and a book proposal for
a book I ended up not selling. The first novel was a learning
experience; now I'm ecstatic it didn't get published—the
reviews would have been disastrous. The second novel was a
learning experience, which I began, actually, as a reaction,
in a roundabout way, to getting pregnant. Let me explain: I
was 100 pages into writing the mystery I mentioned earlier.
At page 100, the bad guy had just emerged from the basement
where he was hiding, and covered my main character, Fiona's,
mouth, with his hand. That day I learned I was pregnant. I
worried that if I kept working on that book, I might scare
my baby in utero, so I put it aside and, through freewriting,
started writing Starletta's
Kitchen. I tried selling it but a few agents had problems
with the main male character, a quite repellent fellow; I
based him on a former boyfriend who thought I'd be perfect
if only I'd get a boob job. The lesson in this for me was:
Don't write characters based on people you yearn to avenge.
I'm working on another novel that I pray is not one more learning
experience. At the Los Angeles Times Festival of Books,
Glen David Gold ( Carter Beats the Devil ) said, in
regards to writing one unpublished novel after another, something
to the effect that he'd kill himself if Carter was
just one more learning experience. I can relate.
Q: What's a typical day like?
A: I have no typical days. I'm very much anti-routine, whenever
possible, which may be why I've had so few actual 9-5 jobs.
Some days I get up early and walk before my son wakes up, while
my husband is still asleep (he's a night owl, sometimes coming
to bed a few hours before I get up). Other mornings I get up
early, make a cup of chai, and start writing. One thing is true:
I have to get writing done first thing or it doesn't get done,
or I have to program it into my brain that today is a day when
I'll only have bits of time here and there and so need to remember
to use those bits.
Q: Who are your favorite authors?
A: That's like asking, "What's your favorite food?" I've
had so many favorites. Some change, some remain the same.
I tend to read literary fiction—and mystery writers whose
style is more literary—narrative nonfiction and poetry. And
because I have a young son, I've also grown to appreciate
children's fiction. Here's what comes to mind at this very
minute: I've been on an Anita Shreve kick. I read a couple of her books a couple years ago, but I'm reading them again and especially love Light on Snow. I also love Chris Bohjalian and T. Jefferson Parker's fiction.
Joan Didion's essays in The White Album and Slouching Toward Bethlehem.
Andre Dubus' Meditations from a Moveable Chair. Hemingway's A
Moveable Feast. Michael Cunningham's The Hours,
Ann Patchett's Bel Canto. David Mamet's South of
the Northeast Kingdom. Dani Shapiro's Slow Motion.
Jo-Ann Mapson's Blue Rodeo and Goodbye, Earl. Jonathan
Franzen's The Corrections. Debbie Bull's Blue Jelly.
Paul Bowles' The Sheltering Sky. Flaubert's Madame
Bovary. Leo Tolstoy's Anna Karenina. Charlotte
Bronte's Jane Eyre. Jean Rhys' Wide Sargasso Sea. 84
Charring Cross Road by Helene Hanff. Graham Greene's The
End of the Affair. My favorite short story writers are Ron
Carlson and Raymond Carver. Favorite poets are Billy Collins,
Sharon Olds, Michael Ryan, Robert Hass and Stephen Dunn. I love
children's author Kate DiCamillo (Because of Winn-Dixie),
and Louis Sachar's Holes is a classic. I could go on
and on but I had better stop now.
Q: By the way, what is your favorite food?
A: Depends on my mood! Hot fudge sundaes are always a favorite,
but I won't be eating them daily—or even monthly—until ours
is a Woody Allen universe in which hot fudge sundaes are considered
healthy and non-fattening.
Q: What about journals—paper or otherwise?
A: I read the Los Angeles Times and pick up USA
Today when I can. There's way too much paper in this
house, so I visit online sites for news, such as the New
York Times and Slate.com. I subscribe to the New Yorker, The
Atlantic, Poets and Writers, The Writer, Los
Angeles Magazine, and a handful of others. Daily I visit
the ASJA (American Society of Journalists and Authors) Phorum
(www.asja.org) and Readerville.com.
Q: What if you don't come from a literary background—can
you still become a writer?
A: Earlier I said the books in our house were Reader's Digest
Condensed Books . I was not kidding. My father read The
New York Daily News and my mother read magazines like True
Romance and The National Enquirer, which she
tried to hide from me. The TV was on most of the time. I never
saw my parents reading books and they didn't read to me. The
only time I remember, as a child, going to the library was
when I visited my half-sister, Jeanne, in Kansas one summer.
She took me to the library where I checked out a pile of books—it
was such a thrill! There are more authors than you'd think—some
award-winning, too—that came from non-literary backgrounds:
poet Stephen Dunn, author Susan Straight. Musicians come from
non-musical backgrounds, artists come from non-artistic backgrounds.
I believe if it's in your heart and soul, and if it's your
destiny, you will find your way to it—whatever it is.
Q: How did your radio show come about?
A: Soon after I began working on Pen on Fire (when
my10-year-old son was a toddler), I made contact with a New
York editor at a major publishing house. I sent him my fledgling
book which was in the form of a book proposal—30 or so pages
of text with a bio, overview and marketing information. The
editors liked it but the marketing department nixed the deal. "Who
is she?" they wanted to know. I taught at home, did little freelancing.
My name just wasn't out there.
On a molecular level, I must have heard what they said. I
began looking into enjoyable ways I could become more of a presence
in the literary community. One was teaching at the university,
another was making an effort to get into national publications.
And the third was to start a radio show with authors as guests.
UCI, where my show broadcasts from, has training sessions every
quarter and I took one. I passed the FCC test and was on my
way. The show's been running six-and-a-half years now, and I
know if it weren't for the show, there are so many authors I
would never have met. My personality is more introverted; I'm
not the type to call up an author or e-mail them and convince
them to let me take them to lunch to chat. That's not me at
all. Plus, most authors hardly have time to go out to lunch
with their friends, let alone kind, lunch-treating strangers.
Q: What about books about writing—which do you favor (other
than your own, of course)?
A: Carolyn See's Making a Literary Life, Rita Mae Brown's Starting
from Scratch , Flannery O'Conner's Mysteries and Manners.
Natalie Goldberg's Writing Down the Bones and Thunder
and Lightning. Anne Lamott's Bird by Bird. Dennis
Palumbo's Writing from the Inside Out. Susan Woolridge's Poemcrazy.
And of course Brenda Ueland's 1938 classic If You Want
to Write.
Q: What is the biggest obstacle to beginning writers?
A: It's that innocuous piece of furniture
in everybody's house—the television! You have got to learn
to turn it off. Better yet, snip the cable so you can't watch
cable. That's what we did. Fortunate for me, my husband sometimes
watches videos, but never TV. Knowing myself, if we did have
cable, daily I would turn it on to watch "Biography" or old
movies. It's the same with ice cream: I don't keep my favorite
ice cream in the house because when it's here, I must eat
it all. There's no such thing as having a little scoop once
a week. Same goes for TV. It's best to just not have those
shows be accessible. So many are available on video, anyway.
If your family raises a ruckus, just say once you're on your
way as a writer, when your discipline is firm, you'll get
cable turned back on. Tell them it's life or death for you
as a writer.
Q: What advice to you have for beginning writers?
A: Other than not watching TV? Decide that writing is a priority
and make time for it. If you're in love with someone, you make
time for him or her, right? Likewise, you must make time for
writing. Instead of going out to lunch, dinner, to the movies,
or to a concert, write. So many Sundays when I was working on Starletta's
Kitchen and Pen on Fire, I sat at my desk and kissed
my husband and son goodbye as they walked happily out the door
on their way to the beach or the park. I had no idea if my books
would ever be published. I was writing because I had to, because
I knew that if I didn't, they would never be finished. Well,
as it turned out, one wasn't published (so far), and one was.
Do I regret not going to the beach those days with my family?
I must admit, I do a little. But we had many good, fun days
back then, and I believe—I hope —that my working hard
and getting a book published will also be good for my son—for all of
us—in the long run. Often it's a matter of balance. While you
should not sacrifice your family for your art, you need to get
work done, too. It's your job to figure out how to best do that. |